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Live Streamed on January 8, 2025 2:31 PM ET
Fires, Facebook & Free Speech: The 259th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the Palisades Fire in Los Angeles, which has destroyed the neighborhood where Heather grew up. Why does California burn, how are fires different now than they used to be, what happens now? We discuss the Getty Villa and Palisades Village, and why we should care what happens to a wealthy neighborhood in West LA. Also: did the LA Fire Chief drinking the DEI Kool-Aid contribute to the devastation? And when are natural disasters not entirely natural? Then: Zuckerberg announces changes to fact-checking, filters, and trust and safety teams at Meta. It’s not an apology. Are the changes politically motivated, or market-driven, or philosophical, and will they stick? At the same time, Musk announces plans for algorithmic deboosting on X. Zero is a special number.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Scope of the LA fires from The Lookout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjE9xVU4eUA

Heather’s childhood LA fire experience: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/antipode-chapter-1

Jacob Soboroff on the Palisades Fire: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEkTEKdJxe9/

Fox News in Palisades Village: https://x.com/BigFish3000/status/1877008354008035683

Getty History: https://www.getty.edu/press/pdfs/Getty_History_and_Timeline.pdf

DEI LA Fire Chief: https://x.com/amuse/status/1876873508006842709

Zuckerberg announces changes: https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/1876624442643878065

Musk does too: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1875355425601999255

Fact checkers aren’t scientists: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/coming-soon

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Russelling with God | Russell Brand on DarkHorse

Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.

Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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The Untold Story of Polio – Forrest Maready on DarkHorse

Forrest Maready is the author of “The Moth in the Iron Lung”, among other books. It tells a very different story of the Polio epidemic than the one you are likely familiar with, a story with radically different implications for health and medicine. Bret talks with Forest about his book and his interpretation of the evidence with an evolutionary bent to the conversation.

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Follow Forest on X: https://x.com/forrestmaready


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Unsettling Science – Rebutting the Experts

In September of 2023, Bret issued a challenge to Vaccine proponents to explain why he was wrong about the danger from the Covid mRNA transfusions within this podcast: https://youtu.be/7C7Q9UF3PRE

Shortly thereafter, Dr. Dan Wilson gathered 3 experts to answer Bret’s challenge in this video: https://youtu.be/OUiM3sQuswE?si=ZFoLpyauXrtaFi7K

This podcast with Joomi Kim and Bret Swanson is the response to Dan’s video.

Bret Swanson put together an excellent slide deck to accompany this podcast, find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5vaooui2r15zayv1kl2ye/2024-3-23-Dan-Wilson-Response-Slide-Deck.pdf?rlkey=3t5uizv3e0gep2q3vydouwtl7&dl=0


Find Bret Swanson on X: @JBSay (https://twitter.com/JBSay)
Find Bret Swanson on Substack: http://infonomena.substack.com/

Find Joomi Kim on X: @JoomiKim1 (https://twitter.com/JoomiKim1)
Find Joomi Kim on Substack: https://joomi.substack.com/


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RFK’s address to HHS staff is worth watching. Especially minute 16 to 17. he talks about the importance of starting with a clean slate and being willing to be wrong in order to make forward progress. It’s something each, and every person needs to be able to do.

February 21, 2025

Try posting this on X with a prominent account, and see what happens

Has anyone read The Natron Theory by Marcell Fóti? He proposes that the ancient Egyptians cast the massive stone blocks used in the pyramids rather than carving and transporting them. According to his theory ahem hypothesis, they used Natron—a naturally occurring salt from the Wadi Natrun salt flats—to create an early form of geopolymer stone.

Fóti also suggests that any early civilization that discovered fire would inevitably stumble upon the process of creating stone. The byproducts of fire, such as wood ash and potash, may have played a crucial role in ancient stone-making techniques. When mixed with rainwater, these alkaline substances form a highly caustic solution capable of breaking down minerals in surrounding soil or rock. Over time, this reaction could have led to the discovery of how to dissolve, reconstitute, and harden materials into stone-like forms. Such a process might explain how so many ancient cultures were able to construct massive stone monuments—such as Machu ...

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