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Live Streamed on January 17, 2026 2:37 PM ET
The Washington State of Science: The 309th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

On this, our 309th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss science and scientism, experts and expertise. Washington state Governor Bob Ferguson objects to the reduction in the Childhood Vaccine Schedule, and promises to bring “science” back to the state. In fact, the new recommendations are putting the U.S. more in line with what European countries recommend, and are quite conservative. Also, while Ferguson was the WA Attorney General, he imposed and enforced Covid vaccine mandates; many people lost their jobs and their livelihoods. Also in Washington: Brandi Kruse outs Democratic majority leader Jamie Pedersen as being unclear about the nature of male and female (or unwilling to say what he knows). On Broadway, Dylan Mulvaney, a male, will be playing Anne Boleyn, one of the most famous and influential women in history. Finally: words in honor and memory of Scott Adams.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Governor Ferguson: https://x.com/govbobferguson/status/2011482561206231340

HHS Immunization Assessment: https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assessment-of-the-us-childhood-and-adolescent-immunization-schedule-compared-to-other-countries.pdf

New vaccine guideline summary: https://www.hhs.gov/childhood-immunization-schedule/index.html

Hanson v Ferguson: https://www.silentmajorityfoundation.org/medicalfreedom

Kruse takes on Pedersen: https://x.com/BrandiKruse/status/2010068851858518456

Mulvaney to play Anne Boleyn: https://www.iheartradiobroadway.com/content/2026-01-16-six-welcomes-new-queens-on-february-16/

Scott Adams: https://x.com/dawnsmission/status/2011123367794118822


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:13 Scientificism, Expertise & Broadway
00:09:15 Sponsor: SaunaSpace
00:12:54 Sponsor: Masa Chips
00:15:27 Sponsor: Xlear
00:19:54 Washington State Childhood Vaccine Schedule
00:42:06 Bob Ferguson, Attorney General & COVID Vaccine Mandates
01:02:57 Washington State Senate Majority Leader and Biological Reality
01:14:49 Dylan Mulvaney on Broadway
01:29:26 Remembering Scott Adams
01:41:46 Closing

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Watch Part I: https://rumble.com/v6pns8o-is-bret-allergic-to-european-wheat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Dr. Bret Weinstein is running an experiment on himself. After a decade of avoiding wheat he has tried eating it while in Spain. In this update video he explains how he has been feeling and answers common questions around glyphosate and dry fasting.

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No live stream today, instead Bret is running an experiment from Spain.

Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

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Bret and Heather 180th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Allergies, Adjuvants, & Affirmative Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Ra_qW470w?si=G9BTq7Nv3WusHR2-&t=1968

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Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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Just sharing some excellent sensemaking. He has his own podcast called Birthing Instincts that looks very good

https://open.spotify.com/episode/05MHG5xCoay4W73aTBLWEZ?si=lufisF_OSH6ftlv2WN3Yog

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Does anyone else get a bad feeling about what’s happening in Minneapolis? It feels like people’s hatred for Tim Walz is blinding them to the broader implications of a military-like occupation of a city, something that could just as easily happen elsewhere. This does not seem like a good-faith effort, either; otherwise, as Bret has mentioned, there would be discussion of Chinese nationals as well. The focus on the Somali narrative, meanwhile, feels every bit as manufactured as the weapons-of-mass-destruction narrative was. Even if the Somali fraud stories are true, they are likely a fraction of the fraud committed every day in Washington, DC, through USAID, NIAID, or similar institutions.

What many people may not realize is that the U.S. has been conducting its longest-running military campaign in Somalia, largely outside public attention. As has been reported, last year alone Donald Trump more than doubled the previous annual record for airstrikes, with over 120.

And now, seemingly out ...

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Locals question:

if all instances of citizens being arrested by ICE last year were all magically "fatal" then getting arrested by ICE is still 28x safer than catching covid. What humanity are we losing and how with something 28x safer than covid?

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