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The Real Matrix: The 278th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

We begin with the HHS announcement that Covid shots will no longer be recommended to healthy children and pregnant women. What does healthy mean? And what are the conditions that provide release from liability for vaccine makers? Then, a discussion of kinds of immunity, and how vaccines are best delivered depending on how disease is transmitted. We compare what was claimed about the shots (they stop transmission!), and what Pfizer later admitted (that they did not know if the shots stopped transmission—but they had to move at the “speed of science”!). Also, a discussion of how to kill your pathogens by crossing ecological borders…and how to get rid of a botfly with a steak, or with ivermectin. Then: why are young male capuchin monkeys abducting baby howler monkeys on an island off the coast of Panama? Finally: a discussion of transhumanism, our future, our embodied selves, how we live on, what we owe our children, what our beloved dead would make of now, and how we, and the LLMs, could know.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Kennedy, Bhattacharya and Makary on changing vax recommendations: https://x.com/SecKennedy/status/1927368440811008138

Dr. Lon Jones on mucosal immunity (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w99CQVaOK0E

Rob Roos forcing truth from Pfizer: https://x.com/Rob_Roos/status/1579759795225198593

Heather on killing your pathogens: https://open.substack.com/pub/naturalselections/p/kill-your-pathogens

Forrest Maready on polio (on DHP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wYUnQUESU

Goldsborough et al 2025. Rise and spread of a social tradition of interspecies abduction. Current Biology 35(10): R375-R376: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(25)00372-0

Bret on transhumanism: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1927043640813138102


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:22 Welcome
00:06:37 Sponsors: Brain.fm, Pique, and Jolie
00:14:36 Kennedy Announcement
00:26:13 Immunity for Respiratory Viruses: Injecting in Your Arm vs. Inhalation
00:37:04 Why did they choose the wrong mode?
00:42:44 How to Kill Your Pathogens
00:50:28 Redefining "Vaccine"
00:55:57 Bret's Experience with Howler Monkeys and Botflies
00:58:40 Male Monkeys Behaving as Female
01:05:23 Bret's Hypothesis
01:13:45 Gestation is Not About You
01:17:26 Are Human Personalities Really Similar to Wild Non-Human Primates?
01:19:58 Transhumanists are Uploading Us to the Cloud
01:42:55 The Flaw in The Matrix
01:44:59 Closing

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Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

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@DarkhorsePod The whole vaccine story reminds me of the lack of fear people have when flying on an airplane. For example, if a 4-year-old child were to fly for the first time, that child might be nervous and excited, maybe a little scared, but ultimately calm and quiet.

If someone from 200 years ago experienced the same thing without context, they might have a heart attack and think they were about to die a horrible death. We take it for granted how normal it is to fly.

The difference isn’t the physic but the social context. The child isn’t afraid because everyone around him is calm. The adults act like everything is normal because they’ve read the statistics and they’ve flown dozens of times before. The child takes solace in their resolve.

Public trust works the same way. People feel calm when they believe a system has a long safety record and when the signals around them are consistent. When something new is introduced under the umbrella of that trusted system (e.g. vaccines), the ...

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So in the bizarro world of the Epstein saga, come to find out that, the whole covid response was the brainchild of Epstein, Who IS this guy? For reference, the below in a 6-part series on what the files revealed in regards of pandemic planning. I was listening to Bret talk to Jeffrey Tucker, and the things they were wondering if they were on purpose: YES, all of it was pre-planned YEARS ago, by Epstein, Gates, et-al:

https://open.substack.com/pub/sayerji/p/breaking-the-epstein-files-illuminate?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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