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A Germ of Truth: The 263rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the relationship between infectious and chronic disease, and between germ theory and terrain theory of disease. Pathogens are real, and exogenous treatments like antibiotics can kill them. The health of the body is affected by diet, exercise, stress, and the microbiome, all of which can affect how susceptible a person is to getting sick from pathogens. We discuss gastric ulcers, Covid-19, pneumococcal disease, and comorbidities. Also: how do traditional vs modern diets affect the health, dental and otherwise, of people? Why do pre-industrial people not get cavities, or need orthodontia? Why do squirrels fed by humans develop similarly malformed skulls as babies fed modern diets? Finally: do we have a responsibility to point out the carnage that will result as the Trump administration goes after decades of entrenched interests?


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Mentioned in this episode:

RFK Jr on chronic and infectious disease: https://x.com/ChildrensHD/status/1885018213701800387

RFK Jr on The Real Anthony Fauci: https://amzn.to/40INnxF (commission earned)

Marshall et al 1985. Attempt to fulfil Koch's postulates for pyloric Campylobacter. Med J Aust. 142:436–9:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.1985.tb113443.x

Evolutionary Lens Livestream #88 – w discussion of Covid x comorbidities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWu6DUFFt4&t=337s

Hanada et al 2021. Multiple comorbidities increase the risk of death from invasive pneumococcal disease under the age of 65 years. Journal of Infection and Chemotherapy, 27(9): 1311-1318: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1341321X21001252

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, by Weston Price (1939): https://amzn.to/4jXciXl (commission earned)

Chandler et al 2025. Morphological change in an isolated population of red squirrels (Sciurus vulgaris) in Britain. Royal Society Open Science, 12(1): 240555.https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.240555


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:34 Welcome
00:07:24 Sponsors: Caraway, Manukora, ARMRA
00:18:26 The RFK Jr. Funding Strategy: Chronic vs. Infectious Disease
00:21:08 Germ Theory and Terrain Theory of Disease
00:34:52 The Term “Disease” Sets us Up for Disaster
00:41:48 RFK Jr. Explains Miasma Theory vs. Germ Theory (Terrain Theory)
00:46:47 Gastric Ulcers
00:52:19 COVID: Chronic Disease Makes You More Susceptible
01:03:12 Traditional vs. Modern Diets
01:40:56 Trump Administration Carnage
02:00:06 Closing

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

00:02:06
Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

00:00:58
Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
October 05, 2026

The battle between David and Goliath was brought up by Jeffrey as the metaphor that we health-aligned folks believed in regarding RFKj's and ilk's appointments to government. They were supposed to be the rock that David, our champions, took Goliath down with. Jeffrey laments that we underestimated Goliath by a long shot.

The subsequent events to the slaying of Goliath in the bible story might be telling. What happened next, as near as I can recall, was that David's pals, feeling really tough all of a sudden and seeing the dismay and enervation of Goliath's gang of thugs (army), set upon them with great gusto and annihilated them or drove them off.

David's pals didn't say "oh- hey that's great, the big guy's dead, the future is bright" and then just go back to their tents. They said to one another something more like, "Hey, the big bugger's down! Let's get 'em while there's still tears in their eyes!"

Blessings be upon the ones of us who are acting on that observation, like Bret and ...

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With Joel Bret said he believes there is value in the old biblical stories and that there needs to be work done on how they are told modernly. Im glad you updated your belief as you told me otherwise in a previous Q&A (tower of babel) If race realism is false, one explaination of differences is the myths we pass down. To test this we would assume to see the greatest expression of a trait in outlier males (greater male variablility) and we would want a group that has had long history. Jews wrote their cultural cornerstone during the babylonian exile 5th century bc and racists want everyone to know about 109 other instances of reinforcement. A whole belief and cultural system that revolves around being forced away from home and becoming sojourners. To what degree do you think this affects jewish behavior? Jewish outlier behavior reminds me of foster children, testing boundaries. Jewish outlier men seem to possess the disposition to become ...

October 03, 2026

The Military's AI Leaked Its Own Guest List

 

An incredibly embarrassing story you will certainly never hear

 

Hey guys, a mistake was made recently that would make every IT person cringe, especially when it happens at the highest levels of military intelligence.

 

First, some background. There's an ongoing controversy over whether Mitch Snow, a former special forces operator, was right when he said he saw key members of Charlie Kirk's security team, as well as Erika Kirk, at Fort Huachuca, the US's premier intelligence base, in the day or days before the assassination.

 

So why does Fort Huachuca matter? According to researcher Ana Escobar, in the days leading up to the assassination, the base's expected visitor list included a strange mix of people: top military officials, the director of the Mossad, the people who run the HADES program, and key members of Charlie Kirk's security team. That's a weird group to have heading to the same Army base in the same handful of days.

 

And then there's the HADES jet ...

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