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Live Streamed on February 3, 2025 2:34 PM ET
A Germ of Truth: The 263rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss the relationship between infectious and chronic disease, and between germ theory and terrain theory of disease. Pathogens are real, and exogenous treatments like antibiotics can kill them. The health of the body is affected by diet, exercise, stress, and the microbiome, all of which can affect how susceptible a person is to getting sick from pathogens. We discuss gastric ulcers, Covid-19, pneumococcal disease, and comorbidities. Also: how do traditional vs modern diets affect the health, dental and otherwise, of people? Why do pre-industrial people not get cavities, or need orthodontia? Why do squirrels fed by humans develop similarly malformed skulls as babies fed modern diets? Finally: do we have a responsibility to point out the carnage that will result as the Trump administration goes after decades of entrenched interests?


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Mentioned in this episode:

RFK Jr on chronic and infectious disease: https://x.com/ChildrensHD/status/1885018213701800387

RFK Jr on The Real Anthony Fauci: https://amzn.to/40INnxF (commission earned)

Marshall et al 1985. Attempt to fulfil Koch's postulates for pyloric Campylobacter. Med J Aust. 142:436–9:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.1985.tb113443.x

Evolutionary Lens Livestream #88 – w discussion of Covid x comorbidities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWu6DUFFt4&t=337s

Hanada et al 2021. Multiple comorbidities increase the risk of death from invasive pneumococcal disease under the age of 65 years. Journal of Infection and Chemotherapy, 27(9): 1311-1318: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1341321X21001252

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, by Weston Price (1939): https://amzn.to/4jXciXl (commission earned)

Chandler et al 2025. Morphological change in an isolated population of red squirrels (Sciurus vulgaris) in Britain. Royal Society Open Science, 12(1): 240555.https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.240555


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:34 Welcome
00:07:24 Sponsors: Caraway, Manukora, ARMRA
00:18:26 The RFK Jr. Funding Strategy: Chronic vs. Infectious Disease
00:21:08 Germ Theory and Terrain Theory of Disease
00:34:52 The Term “Disease” Sets us Up for Disaster
00:41:48 RFK Jr. Explains Miasma Theory vs. Germ Theory (Terrain Theory)
00:46:47 Gastric Ulcers
00:52:19 COVID: Chronic Disease Makes You More Susceptible
01:03:12 Traditional vs. Modern Diets
01:40:56 Trump Administration Carnage
02:00:06 Closing

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Will European wheat have an effect on Bret Weinstein? This is Part II of his European experiment, the results.

Watch Part I: https://rumble.com/v6pns8o-is-bret-allergic-to-european-wheat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Dr. Bret Weinstein is running an experiment on himself. After a decade of avoiding wheat he has tried eating it while in Spain. In this update video he explains how he has been feeling and answers common questions around glyphosate and dry fasting.

Watch more on the topic of glyphosate and dry fasting from Bret and Heather:

It’s not Complicated: The 230th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v52it2i-the-230th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Think Fast: The 252nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v5rcks8-the-252nd-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat?

No live stream today, instead Bret is running an experiment from Spain.

Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

Watch more on the topic of allergies and vaccines from Bret and Heather:

Mr. Jones and Me: Nathan Jones on DarkHorse
https://youtu.be/anC_au3HhdA?si=rNhk6_SUzF0lsgI1&t=1781

Bret and Heather 180th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Allergies, Adjuvants, & Affirmative Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Ra_qW470w?si=G9BTq7Nv3WusHR2-&t=1968

Joe Rogan Experience #2198 - Bret Weinstein https://youtu.be/iOQdjgdRcfA?si=d-hVtgZ54MZ96Jdn&t=5664

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Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.

Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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In their discussion, I wasn't convinced that Bret and Jeffrey nailed the full motivation for taking the Covid 19 shot (or any vaccine, for that matter).

I propose a new lens - that an amped up version of the Ben Franklin effect is at play, where someone asks a favour of someone who dislikes/distrusts them. This manipulation results in post (and peri?) hoc dissonance and rationalisation which ultimately leads to a shift (from negative to positive) in regard for the person asking the favour. "I could only be granting this favour to someone I like, so this person must be likeable".

I think this goes some way to explaining the sickening 180 in so many attitudes towards Big Pharma (and those in authority) and the subsequent doubling down by those who'd taken the shot. If so, it might be relevant to all vaccines, and other 'favours' like signing up for military service.

Most research has focussed on fairly tame gestures like lending a book or some money. Is it possible that it is ...

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February 20, 2026

@DarkhorsePod The whole vaccine story reminds me of the lack of fear people have when flying on an airplane. For example, if a 4-year-old child were to fly for the first time, that child might be nervous and excited, maybe a little scared, but ultimately calm and quiet.

If someone from 200 years ago experienced the same thing without context, they might have a heart attack and think they were about to die a horrible death. We take it for granted how normal it is to fly.

The difference isn’t the physic but the social context. The child isn’t afraid because everyone around him is calm. The adults act like everything is normal because they’ve read the statistics and they’ve flown dozens of times before. The child takes solace in their resolve.

Public trust works the same way. People feel calm when they believe a system has a long safety record and when the signals around them are consistent. When something new is introduced under the umbrella of that trusted system (e.g. vaccines), the ...

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February 19, 2026

So in the bizarro world of the Epstein saga, come to find out that, the whole covid response was the brainchild of Epstein, Who IS this guy? For reference, the below in a 6-part series on what the files revealed in regards of pandemic planning. I was listening to Bret talk to Jeffrey Tucker, and the things they were wondering if they were on purpose: YES, all of it was pre-planned YEARS ago, by Epstein, Gates, et-al:

https://open.substack.com/pub/sayerji/p/breaking-the-epstein-files-illuminate?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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