In this week’s episode, we discuss the relationship between infectious and chronic disease, and between germ theory and terrain theory of disease. Pathogens are real, and exogenous treatments like antibiotics can kill them. The health of the body is affected by diet, exercise, stress, and the microbiome, all of which can affect how susceptible a person is to getting sick from pathogens. We discuss gastric ulcers, Covid-19, pneumococcal disease, and comorbidities. Also: how do traditional vs modern diets affect the health, dental and otherwise, of people? Why do pre-industrial people not get cavities, or need orthodontia? Why do squirrels fed by humans develop similarly malformed skulls as babies fed modern diets? Finally: do we have a responsibility to point out the carnage that will result as the Trump administration goes after decades of entrenched interests?
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Mentioned in this episode:
RFK Jr on chronic and infectious disease: https://x.com/ChildrensHD/status/1885018213701800387
RFK Jr on The Real Anthony Fauci: https://amzn.to/40INnxF (commission earned)
Marshall et al 1985. Attempt to fulfil Koch's postulates for pyloric Campylobacter. Med J Aust. 142:436–9:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.5694/j.1326-5377.1985.tb113443.x
Evolutionary Lens Livestream #88 – w discussion of Covid x comorbidities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSWu6DUFFt4&t=337s
Hanada et al 2021. Multiple comorbidities increase the risk of death from invasive pneumococcal disease under the age of 65 years. Journal of Infection and Chemotherapy, 27(9): 1311-1318: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1341321X21001252
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, by Weston Price (1939): https://amzn.to/4jXciXl (commission earned)
Chandler et al 2025. Morphological change in an isolated population of red squirrels (Sciurus vulgaris) in Britain. Royal Society Open Science, 12(1): 240555.https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.240555
Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:34 Welcome
00:07:24 Sponsors: Caraway, Manukora, ARMRA
00:18:26 The RFK Jr. Funding Strategy: Chronic vs. Infectious Disease
00:21:08 Germ Theory and Terrain Theory of Disease
00:34:52 The Term “Disease” Sets us Up for Disaster
00:41:48 RFK Jr. Explains Miasma Theory vs. Germ Theory (Terrain Theory)
00:46:47 Gastric Ulcers
00:52:19 COVID: Chronic Disease Makes You More Susceptible
01:03:12 Traditional vs. Modern Diets
01:40:56 Trump Administration Carnage
02:00:06 Closing
Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.
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In September of 2023, Bret issued a challenge to Vaccine proponents to explain why he was wrong about the danger from the Covid mRNA transfusions within this podcast: https://youtu.be/7C7Q9UF3PRE
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RFK’s address to HHS staff is worth watching. Especially minute 16 to 17. he talks about the importance of starting with a clean slate and being willing to be wrong in order to make forward progress. It’s something each, and every person needs to be able to do.
Has anyone read The Natron Theory by Marcell Fóti? He proposes that the ancient Egyptians cast the massive stone blocks used in the pyramids rather than carving and transporting them. According to his theory ahem hypothesis, they used Natron—a naturally occurring salt from the Wadi Natrun salt flats—to create an early form of geopolymer stone.
Fóti also suggests that any early civilization that discovered fire would inevitably stumble upon the process of creating stone. The byproducts of fire, such as wood ash and potash, may have played a crucial role in ancient stone-making techniques. When mixed with rainwater, these alkaline substances form a highly caustic solution capable of breaking down minerals in surrounding soil or rock. Over time, this reaction could have led to the discovery of how to dissolve, reconstitute, and harden materials into stone-like forms. Such a process might explain how so many ancient cultures were able to construct massive stone monuments—such as Machu ...
