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Follow the White Rabbit(s): The 256th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss resistance to Make America Healthy Again, and how beliefs that were once unspeakable become speakable. It used to be impossible to speak about the risks of fluoride in the water; now it’s not. It used to be impossible to question the safety of Mercury in vaccines; now it’s not. How safe is Aluminum as an adjuvant in vaccines? Goliath assures us it’s safe; we look at the research that has been done, and find otherwise. We are betting our lives, and our children’s lives, on four rabbits and a dude.

We also discuss the polio vaccine, and GLP-1 RAs, more familiarly known as Ozempic and its chemical kin. Similar to the mRNA shots for Covid (wherein Uracil was replaced with Pseudouridine), GLP-1RAs are similar but not identical to a naturally occurring human hormone, but have been altered to be more “stable” and last longer in the body.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Secret campaign to disrupt MAHA: https://x.com/holden_culotta/status/1869206497013698823

Karstens 2024. History of Salk Inactivated Polio vaccine: https://www.malone.news/p/inconvenient-history-of-salk-inactivated

Why we should welcome the lab leak theory: https://unherd.com/2021/06/why-we-should-welcome-the-lab-leak-theory/

Rogers 2019. The Political Economy of Autism: https://ses.library.usyd.edu.au/bitstream/handle/2123/20198/Rogers_T_thesis.pdf

Pharma darlings: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/pharma-darlings

Giant Herbs & Tea: http://www.giant-herbs.com


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:43 Welcome
00:13:02 Sponsors: Pique’s Nandaka, CrowdHealth, Brain.fm
00:28:28 RFK Jr. & The Epidemic of Hyper Novelty (MAHA)
00:33:13 Campaigns from Food, Ag, and Pharma Against Upcoming Confirmations
00:43:38 Paying the Kook Cost (ex. Being Against the Fluoridation of Water)
00:48:42 More “Metaphorically True“ Examples
00:55:48 Metaphorically False vs. Bad People Inflicting Costs on You In Order to Keep You Quiet
01:00:18 They’re Trying to Keep You Mentally Constrained
01:00:56 Vaccine Safety: Factually Incorrect, but Socially Correct
01:09:40 Get Ahead of Insane Claims, Such as “Ozempic is Safe”
01:18:40 “Inconvenient History of Salk Inactivated Polio Vaccine”
01:23:39 Polio Vaccines and Simian Virus 40 (SV40)
01:26:03 The Stories are Wrong
01:29:56 Mercury to Aluminum in Vaccines
01:34:39 Aluminum is a Safe Adjuvant based on Four Studies
01:46:59 Just Test it Properly
01:51:37 To Summarize
01:55:30 Speaking to Doctors
01:55:56 A Funny Moment in GLP-1 Research
02:01:23 Giant Herbs and Tea
02:04:05 DarkHorse Store Ships to Europe Now!

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

00:02:06
Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

00:00:58
Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
NEW on Bret Weinstein's DarkHorse Podcast Inside Rail, "Who is Making War on the West? " featuring Anthony Rubin.
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My Friends Are Still Getting the Damn Shots

A painful upgrade indeed

Something that Bret and Heather discuss is the idea of a painful upgrade. Well, I have my own special version of that where, instead of moving on and finding new friends, I end up going through a breakup period with my friends and eventually come back and repair the bridges.

It’s in my nature to handle things that way. For example, my mom was a lifetime smoker and was hooked on pain meds (she passed in early 2020), and I got really, really, really upset with her back in 2012-ish because I kept begging her to quit and it deeply disturbed me. So I went two years in frustration not talking to her because I was so upset, but I eventually came around, realizing that I can’t change her. After that, I would buy cigarettes for her if she needed help with that, but I wouldn’t touch the meds.

Anyways, I’m at the same point with my friends. Out of frustration, I stopped talking to many of those I once hung out with, for all the ...

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