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Unsettling Science – Rebutting the Experts

In September of 2023, Bret issued a challenge to Vaccine proponents to explain why he was wrong about the danger from the Covid mRNA transfusions within this podcast: https://youtu.be/7C7Q9UF3PRE

Shortly thereafter, Dr. Dan Wilson gathered 3 experts to answer Bret’s challenge in this video: https://youtu.be/OUiM3sQuswE?si=ZFoLpyauXrtaFi7K

This podcast with Joomi Kim and Bret Swanson is the response to Dan’s video.

Bret Swanson put together an excellent slide deck to accompany this podcast, find it here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5vaooui2r15zayv1kl2ye/2024-3-23-Dan-Wilson-Response-Slide-Deck.pdf?rlkey=3t5uizv3e0gep2q3vydouwtl7&dl=0


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Find Bret Swanson on Substack: http://infonomena.substack.com/

Find Joomi Kim on X: @JoomiKim1 (https://twitter.com/JoomiKim1)
Find Joomi Kim on Substack: https://joomi.substack.com/


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--Shared Sources --

Krauson Et Al. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-023-00742-7

Roltgen Et Al. https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00076-9

--Joomi Kim’s Sources--

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--Bret Swanson’s Sources--

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Fauci https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/pdf/S1931-3128(22)00572-8.pdf

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McGreevy Et Al. https://academic.oup.com/jamiaopen/article/6/2/ooad026/7117831

Deb Conrad: https://infonomena.substack.com/p/dr-hotezs-data-is-highly-flawed

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Arne Burkhardt: https://rumble.com/v2jbj16-arne-burkhardt-presentation-to-the-ccca.html

Age Stratified Excess Mortality: https://infonomena.substack.com/p/society-of-actuaries-shows-continued

Hoshino Et Al. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35812802/

--Other Sources--

Our world in data graph: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status

Armada Et Al. https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciimmunol.adh3455

Norman Fenton “Cheap Trick” Statistical Games: https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/the-very-best-of-cheap-trick

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat? Part II

Will European wheat have an effect on Bret Weinstein? This is Part II of his European experiment, the results.

Watch Part I: https://rumble.com/v6pns8o-is-bret-allergic-to-european-wheat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Dr. Bret Weinstein is running an experiment on himself. After a decade of avoiding wheat he has tried eating it while in Spain. In this update video he explains how he has been feeling and answers common questions around glyphosate and dry fasting.

Watch more on the topic of glyphosate and dry fasting from Bret and Heather:

It’s not Complicated: The 230th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v52it2i-the-230th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Think Fast: The 252nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v5rcks8-the-252nd-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat?

No live stream today, instead Bret is running an experiment from Spain.

Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

Watch more on the topic of allergies and vaccines from Bret and Heather:

Mr. Jones and Me: Nathan Jones on DarkHorse
https://youtu.be/anC_au3HhdA?si=rNhk6_SUzF0lsgI1&t=1781

Bret and Heather 180th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Allergies, Adjuvants, & Affirmative Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Ra_qW470w?si=G9BTq7Nv3WusHR2-&t=1968

Joe Rogan Experience #2198 - Bret Weinstein https://youtu.be/iOQdjgdRcfA?si=d-hVtgZ54MZ96Jdn&t=5664

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Russelling with God | Russell Brand on DarkHorse

Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.

Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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In their discussion, I wasn't convinced that Bret and Jeffrey nailed the full motivation for taking the Covid 19 shot (or any vaccine, for that matter).

I propose a new lens - that an amped up version of the Ben Franklin effect is at play, where someone asks a favour of someone who dislikes/distrusts them. This manipulation results in post (and peri?) hoc dissonance and rationalisation which ultimately leads to a shift (from negative to positive) in regard for the person asking the favour. "I could only be granting this favour to someone I like, so this person must be likeable".

I think this goes some way to explaining the sickening 180 in so many attitudes towards Big Pharma (and those in authority) and the subsequent doubling down by those who'd taken the shot. If so, it might be relevant to all vaccines, and other 'favours' like signing up for military service.

Most research has focussed on fairly tame gestures like lending a book or some money. Is it possible that it is ...

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February 20, 2026

@DarkhorsePod The whole vaccine story reminds me of the lack of fear people have when flying on an airplane. For example, if a 4-year-old child were to fly for the first time, that child might be nervous and excited, maybe a little scared, but ultimately calm and quiet.

If someone from 200 years ago experienced the same thing without context, they might have a heart attack and think they were about to die a horrible death. We take it for granted how normal it is to fly.

The difference isn’t the physic but the social context. The child isn’t afraid because everyone around him is calm. The adults act like everything is normal because they’ve read the statistics and they’ve flown dozens of times before. The child takes solace in their resolve.

Public trust works the same way. People feel calm when they believe a system has a long safety record and when the signals around them are consistent. When something new is introduced under the umbrella of that trusted system (e.g. vaccines), the ...

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February 19, 2026

So in the bizarro world of the Epstein saga, come to find out that, the whole covid response was the brainchild of Epstein, Who IS this guy? For reference, the below in a 6-part series on what the files revealed in regards of pandemic planning. I was listening to Bret talk to Jeffrey Tucker, and the things they were wondering if they were on purpose: YES, all of it was pre-planned YEARS ago, by Epstein, Gates, et-al:

https://open.substack.com/pub/sayerji/p/breaking-the-epstein-files-illuminate?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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