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Live Streamed on February 20, 2024 2:30 PM ET
What’s the Return on ROI? The 213th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Live at 11:30am PST on February 20th, 2024

In this episode, we discuss sex, gender, and plants. First up: sex is binary, gender is downstream of sex, and rare Disorders of Sexual Development do not put the lie to the sex binary. Then: Duke University is deep-sixing its world class herbarium. We discuss the value of natural history museums, and of libraries, and defend the liberal arts and sciences as fundamental not just to human inquiry, but to human flourishing.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Colin Wright on Eric Weinstein’s appearance on Modern Wisdom: https://x.com/SwipeWright/status/1759718664369050058

Me, She, He, They: Reality vs Identity in the 21st Century (Heather on sex and gender):https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/meshehethey

Duke plans to close its Herbarium, “A tragic mistake”: https://www.science.org/content/article/tragic-mistake-decision-close-duke-university-s-herbarium-triggers-furor

Herman, S.G., 2002. Wildlife biology and natural history: time for a reunion. The Journal of wildlife management66(4): 933-946. https://www.jstor.org/stable/3802927

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

00:02:06
Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

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Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
May 30, 2026

Iran Was Always the Final Domino

If you think Trump is responsible for the Iran war, then you don’t understand foreign policy for the last 30 years.

This War With Iran Was Planned Long Ago

Everything you see on TV is theater, which should be painfully obvious by now. The war with Iran was the final domino in the Clean Break strategy, a plan designed to reshape the Middle East back in the 1990s. Biden would have gladly gone into Iran, but he was busy toppling Syria. It all started with Iraq, and the United States has been toppling governments ever since.

If you’re a glutton for punishment like me and enjoy tracking the media and its messaging, then this piece is for you.

The Three Myths

For the current narrative to work, that Trump simply wandered into war with Iran on a whim (and no, this is no more about nuclear weapons any more than Iraq was about WMDs), there are three myths the public must accept.

1. Trump must appear to be calling the shots and fully in control.

2. Trump must not appear intimidated or pressured.

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May 29, 2026

I just want to re-post my response to the episode with Michael Yon and Masako Ganaha since I think this is important and I would really like to get a response from @bretweinstein .

Unbelievable! "The Zionists" control the world? really? This is one of the oldest antisemitic statements in the book since by "The Zionists" it is implied "The Jews" otherwise why use this term?. I expected some push back from Bret other than the meek remark about Zionism definition. When you regard to "the Zionists" you are generalizing in a dangerous way. If you mean the Israeli government say so. If you can name names do that. Almost all Israeli jews are Zionists, because being a Zionist just mean that you believe Israel is the land of the jews. Any other definition of Zionism is simply false. The Zionist movement rouse as a result of antisemitism in Europe in an attempt to find a safe home for jews, and the holocaust boosted and probably caused this vision to realize. Now you may ...

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