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Live Streamed on July 16, 2025 2:32 PM ET
The Leverage Economy: The 285th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Today we discuss Epstein, Trump, MAGA, and how we know what we think we know. The actual economy exists, as does the attention economy; now Bret introduces a new term: the leverage economy. This implies that there is a commodity that we cannot see, which can be used to coerce players to act in certain ways. We see evidence of this in academia, in the news, and in politics. Discussion includes data mining, conspiracy, and whether Trump will pick up neocons as he loses some of his base.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Goldberg in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/14/opinion/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files.html

Trump on truth social: https://x.com/chesschick01/status/1945498352507879536

Heinrichs in the Free Press: https://www.thefp.com/p/the-rights-1939-project


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:36 A Strange Moment Across the Universe
00:19:18 Epstein and An Exercise in Campfire
00:26:15 Trump Reversing His Opinion on Epstein
00:32:56 NY Times Asking Why Epstein is a Line in the Sand Issue for the Coalition
00:37:51 Trump's Vulnerability
00:42:53 The Leverage Economy: A Terrifying Idea if True
01:06:05 What Caused Trump's Epstein Flip: Are There Lies in the Evidence?
01:17:25 Epstein and Trump's Base: Why This Issue is Not Like the Others
01:22:24 The Leverage Economy Offers Certainty
01:25:31 Why The Matrix is Sullied for Heather
01:29:04 Those in the Leverage Economy vs. in Reality
01:31:26 The Group of People Who Might Go to Trump's Side
01:39:20 Closing

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Just widely published today. Note - RFK called Parker while the podcast was being filmed.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mind-matter/id1546557228?i=1000724046278

Hi Bret, You took a picture of my arms at FreedomFest. My Vitiligo went crazy after taking the Pfizer shot. Wanted to suggest you read my book published last year. The American REvolution. I believe it would be a quick and interesting read. Be glad to mail you a "pre-revision" copy if I can have a mailing address or it is available on all online book retailers.

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