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Live Streamed on June 17, 2025 2:30 PM ET
Fooled Again? The 281st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Today we discuss war, regime change, cyber-attacks, libertarianism, and driving. In what ways are Israel’s attack on Iran reminiscent of events from the past? Are the neo-cons back, or did they never go away? It would seem that we are being frog-marched to war. Speaking of destabilization: North America's largest publicly traded wholesale distributor of natural foods (UNFI) was hacked, leaving market shelves empty at tens of thousands of stores. In better news: Bret returned from FreedomFest, and provides a report, and discusses his model for Libertarianism 2.0. And: Matthew Crawford on why we drive. Which is better: horses or cars? We circle back to a discussion of efficiencies, coercion, and freedom.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Newsweek on DNI Gabbard and Iran: https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-iran-nuclear-weapon-2051523

Bret on Israel in 2023: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1712588777737367564

FreedomFest 2025: https://freedomfest.com

Crawford 2020. Why We Drive: Toward a Philosophy of the Open Road https://amzn.to/4e4bVrc (commission earned)


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:25 Pollen: Is the ocean spray affecting seasonal allergies?
00:28:06 Heather’s Desire to NOT Spend Time in Language and Reaction Space
00:30:22 We’re Being Marched to War: This is not the Time to Ask Questions?
00:57:36 What it Felt Like to See America’s Entrance into Iraq Unfold
01:02:56 What People Don’t Know: Iran in the 50’s
01:06:57 Today’s Inconsistent Iran Narrative
01:14:43 The Threat in Israel is Keeping Netanyahu in Office
01:17:14 Food Deliveries Have Been Stopped: United Natural Foods Cyberattack
01:25:07 Libertarianism 2.0
01:39:38 Liberty vs. Coercion and Driving

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat? Part II

Will European wheat have an effect on Bret Weinstein? This is Part II of his European experiment, the results.

Watch Part I: https://rumble.com/v6pns8o-is-bret-allergic-to-european-wheat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Dr. Bret Weinstein is running an experiment on himself. After a decade of avoiding wheat he has tried eating it while in Spain. In this update video he explains how he has been feeling and answers common questions around glyphosate and dry fasting.

Watch more on the topic of glyphosate and dry fasting from Bret and Heather:

It’s not Complicated: The 230th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v52it2i-the-230th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Think Fast: The 252nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v5rcks8-the-252nd-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat?

No live stream today, instead Bret is running an experiment from Spain.

Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

Watch more on the topic of allergies and vaccines from Bret and Heather:

Mr. Jones and Me: Nathan Jones on DarkHorse
https://youtu.be/anC_au3HhdA?si=rNhk6_SUzF0lsgI1&t=1781

Bret and Heather 180th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Allergies, Adjuvants, & Affirmative Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Ra_qW470w?si=G9BTq7Nv3WusHR2-&t=1968

Joe Rogan Experience #2198 - Bret Weinstein https://youtu.be/iOQdjgdRcfA?si=d-hVtgZ54MZ96Jdn&t=5664

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Russelling with God | Russell Brand on DarkHorse

Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.

Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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December 14, 2025

Breaking Out of the Silo

Bret often talks about the Cartesian crisis, and I’m not sure I interpret it exactly the same way he does. To me, it means refactoring your thoughts (I’m a software developer, so I think in those terms). It’s stressful because it requires revisiting old beliefs, memories, and assumptions, and checking them against biases you didn’t realize you had. For example, I had to completely rethink how I viewed people like Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky.

I’m not someone who normally watches TV, but there is a multi season show called Silo that struck me as the perfect metaphor for the Cartesian crisis. It’s about people living in a massive underground bunker after a post-apocalyptic event, all raised on a tightly controlled, false story about history and the world in general. The story goes, a few characters start to realize that (surprise) that what they were told about history and the world itself is mostly wrong.

When it comes to the Charlie Kirk shooting, I don’t ...

December 10, 2025

Heresy and the Evolution of Goliath

Over the last few years, I have been trying to make sense of the world I see around me, and in the process, I’ve landed in a very strange place, as anyone else who might have if they questioned any of the many narratives being shoved down our throats.

I’m from Wisconsin, and lately, I’m reminded of Aaron Rodgers, how he went from being the most celebrated human being in Wisconsin to basically a heretic for denying the vaccine. If you’re not from Wisconsin, it’s hard to explain just how big Aaron Rodgers was, the guy was bigger than Bret Favre and Vince Lombardi. He could sneeze on a cloth and could auction it off for a lot of $$. Anyways, I remember well being at a usual WhatsApp neighborhood Packer party a few years back, everyone brought homemade food. We had a Covid circle of trust going, where we all agreed to only hang out with each other (covid lockdown loophole) which I’m sure none of us violated :-P. I am a stirfry guy so I brought some fried...

December 06, 2025

Are we living through a Color Revolution?

Why Color Revolutions are more than fighting with Crayons

When I think of a color revolution, I’m reminded of the movie Inception, where an agent tries to plant the seed of an idea so the host acts in a way that benefits someone else. The entire scheme only works if the host is unwitting, if they never realize the idea wasn’t originally theirs.

A major feature of a color revolution is the ability to influence or control media narratives. For example, when it comes to Ukraine or Syria, organizations connected to the U.S. State Department, often through USAID funded NGOs such as the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), as well as well-funded networks associated with figures like George Soros, are frequently described as helping set up or support media outlets that shape public opinion and bolster opposition movements. The book Creative Chaos is great on this subject; it describes in detail how Facebook and other platforms were able to bypass Syrian ...

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