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Live Streamed on June 17, 2025 2:30 PM ET
Fooled Again? The 281st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Today we discuss war, regime change, cyber-attacks, libertarianism, and driving. In what ways are Israel’s attack on Iran reminiscent of events from the past? Are the neo-cons back, or did they never go away? It would seem that we are being frog-marched to war. Speaking of destabilization: North America's largest publicly traded wholesale distributor of natural foods (UNFI) was hacked, leaving market shelves empty at tens of thousands of stores. In better news: Bret returned from FreedomFest, and provides a report, and discusses his model for Libertarianism 2.0. And: Matthew Crawford on why we drive. Which is better: horses or cars? We circle back to a discussion of efficiencies, coercion, and freedom.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Newsweek on DNI Gabbard and Iran: https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-iran-nuclear-weapon-2051523

Bret on Israel in 2023: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1712588777737367564

FreedomFest 2025: https://freedomfest.com

Crawford 2020. Why We Drive: Toward a Philosophy of the Open Road https://amzn.to/4e4bVrc (commission earned)


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:25 Pollen: Is the ocean spray affecting seasonal allergies?
00:28:06 Heather’s Desire to NOT Spend Time in Language and Reaction Space
00:30:22 We’re Being Marched to War: This is not the Time to Ask Questions?
00:57:36 What it Felt Like to See America’s Entrance into Iraq Unfold
01:02:56 What People Don’t Know: Iran in the 50’s
01:06:57 Today’s Inconsistent Iran Narrative
01:14:43 The Threat in Israel is Keeping Netanyahu in Office
01:17:14 Food Deliveries Have Been Stopped: United Natural Foods Cyberattack
01:25:07 Libertarianism 2.0
01:39:38 Liberty vs. Coercion and Driving

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Will European wheat have an effect on Bret Weinstein? This is Part II of his European experiment, the results.

Watch Part I: https://rumble.com/v6pns8o-is-bret-allergic-to-european-wheat.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Dr. Bret Weinstein is running an experiment on himself. After a decade of avoiding wheat he has tried eating it while in Spain. In this update video he explains how he has been feeling and answers common questions around glyphosate and dry fasting.

Watch more on the topic of glyphosate and dry fasting from Bret and Heather:

It’s not Complicated: The 230th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v52it2i-the-230th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

Think Fast: The 252nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying https://rumble.com/v5rcks8-the-252nd-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp

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Is Bret allergic to European wheat?

No live stream today, instead Bret is running an experiment from Spain.

Do you have a wheat allergy? Have you been able to eat wheat in Europe without the symptoms you experience in America? After a decade without intentionally eating wheat, Bret Weinstein is running an experiment while visiting Spain - will the European wheat cause the same symptoms he experiences when stateside?

Watch more on the topic of allergies and vaccines from Bret and Heather:

Mr. Jones and Me: Nathan Jones on DarkHorse
https://youtu.be/anC_au3HhdA?si=rNhk6_SUzF0lsgI1&t=1781

Bret and Heather 180th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream: Allergies, Adjuvants, & Affirmative Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5Ra_qW470w?si=G9BTq7Nv3WusHR2-&t=1968

Joe Rogan Experience #2198 - Bret Weinstein https://youtu.be/iOQdjgdRcfA?si=d-hVtgZ54MZ96Jdn&t=5664

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Russelling with God | Russell Brand on DarkHorse

Bret talks to Russell Brand in the wake of his Baptism.

Find Russell on X: @rustyrockets (https://x.com/rustyrockets)
Find Russell on Rumble: https://rumble.com/russellbrand


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Following some recent discussions on DH about squirrels.
How red squirrels are fighting back against their grey cousins on these fair isles.

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Was UM's Molecular Plant-Microbe Interaction Laboratory almost compromised by China?

One of the podcasts I like to watch is called The China Show.

Usually they guys go into the never ending propaganda China is always pushing, but they touched upon something that I just couldn't believe. Have you guys heard about this?

Apparently a Chinese official was caught by the FBI trying to smuggle in some deadly fungus that could wipe out our crops. He was trying to get it to his girlfriends lab where no one watches over her on Sundays at UM's Molecular Plant-Microbe Interaction Laboratory.

This seems huge to me, and I haven't heard a peep anywhere about this.

They start talking about it at the 32:00

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