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Live Streamed on June 17, 2025 2:30 PM ET
Fooled Again? The 281st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Today we discuss war, regime change, cyber-attacks, libertarianism, and driving. In what ways are Israel’s attack on Iran reminiscent of events from the past? Are the neo-cons back, or did they never go away? It would seem that we are being frog-marched to war. Speaking of destabilization: North America's largest publicly traded wholesale distributor of natural foods (UNFI) was hacked, leaving market shelves empty at tens of thousands of stores. In better news: Bret returned from FreedomFest, and provides a report, and discusses his model for Libertarianism 2.0. And: Matthew Crawford on why we drive. Which is better: horses or cars? We circle back to a discussion of efficiencies, coercion, and freedom.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Newsweek on DNI Gabbard and Iran: https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-iran-nuclear-weapon-2051523

Bret on Israel in 2023: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1712588777737367564

FreedomFest 2025: https://freedomfest.com

Crawford 2020. Why We Drive: Toward a Philosophy of the Open Road https://amzn.to/4e4bVrc (commission earned)


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:25 Pollen: Is the ocean spray affecting seasonal allergies?
00:28:06 Heather’s Desire to NOT Spend Time in Language and Reaction Space
00:30:22 We’re Being Marched to War: This is not the Time to Ask Questions?
00:57:36 What it Felt Like to See America’s Entrance into Iraq Unfold
01:02:56 What People Don’t Know: Iran in the 50’s
01:06:57 Today’s Inconsistent Iran Narrative
01:14:43 The Threat in Israel is Keeping Netanyahu in Office
01:17:14 Food Deliveries Have Been Stopped: United Natural Foods Cyberattack
01:25:07 Libertarianism 2.0
01:39:38 Liberty vs. Coercion and Driving

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

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Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

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Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

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Britian discovering its ballsack, finally?

@DarkhorsePod your spotlight on the malformation of our teeth and the hypothesis surrounding it is interesting. I wonder, then, what your thoughts are on vision? I have a three year old who is in glasses, but her older sister's vision is just fine.

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