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By Any Means Necessary? The 275th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

Is MAHA under threat? If so, what is the nature of the threat? Following the nomination of Casey Means for Surgeon General, MAHA on-line has polarized: is she a Manchurian candidate, or is she what she appears? If she is what she appears, is her lack of focus on vaccine safety cause for concern? What is the value of experience, clinical and otherwise, in developing wisdom? How can MAHA, a movement forged in fire, maintain strength and rigor as the conditions change?


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Mentioned in this episode:

Nicole Shanahan tweet: https://x.com/nicoleshanahan/status/1920308773979353102

Robert Malone tweet: https://x.com/rwmalonemd/status/1920456273146814663

Robert Malone substack: https://www.malone.news/p/who-is-casey-means-md


00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:05:37 Traveling for Tucker Carlson
00:11:60 Is it Wise to Reject Social Media?
00:19:57 The Reality of Island Life
00:26:35 Sponsors: CrowdHealth, ARMRA Colostrum, Pique’s Nandaka
00:36:32 MAHA’s New Battle
00:43:10 Reviewing the Nominations: Vinay Prasad & Casey Means
00:46:09 The Opinions of Nicole Shanahan & Robert Malone
00:50:50 The Crux of the Issue
00:54:25 Is Casey Means Qualified for The Job of Surgeon General?
01:08:33 Is the Origin Story True?
01:11:30 A Hall of Mirrors: an organized effort to slander or a false prophet?
01:19:56 An Invitation for Casey Means
01:22:07 Closing

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

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Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

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Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

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Add Episode 344 of The Evolutionary Lens with Dr. Bret Weinstein and Dr. Heather Heying, “Lions, New Tigers, and Bears, oh my” to your podcast playlist:

Bret and Heather discuss new cats, fat bears, and overwhelmed frogs. The tilcayo, a newly named species of cat from Bolivia, is part of a group of New World “tiger cats” that live on the outskirts of the Amazon basin. We discuss Carnivoran relationships, cats more specifically, and what is known about the history and ecology of the tilcayo in particular.

Then: it’s fat bear week at Katmai National Park in Alaska, where grizzlies are fattening themselves on salmon for the Winter ahead; we discuss hibernation, reproductive diapause, and general chonkiness in bears.

Finally: female Cope’s gray treefrogs have a harder time choosing good mates when there’s a lot of noise, and when there are too many suitors—kind of like how women often make bad choices when confronted with chaos and wingmen.

Locals: https://darkhorse.locals.com/post/8219193/the-344th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying

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