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Live Streamed on April 23, 2025 2:49 PM ET
Mad Scientists: The 273rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

The middle ground scramble continues. Elites redefine their positions as if they had it right all along, and explain why they definitely need to be in charge of more stuff. We have been waiting for the reckoning; instead we are getting the anti-reckoning. Herein: how science isn’t done, why the scientific method is for everyone, and evidence that most who consider themselves elite don’t understand science. Also: the UK is moving forward with plans to dim the sun, because apparently we learned nothing from Covid, and informed consent is optional.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Our elites don’t deserve this much hatred: https://www.thefp.com/p/elites-dont-deserve-hatred

Anti-effectiveness of mRNA shots: https://x.com/JBSay/status/1915059350407676294

Experiments to dim the Sun will be approved within weeks: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/22/experiments-to-dim-the-sun-get-green-light/


00:02:11 Welcome
00:05:36 Sponsors: VanMan, Pique Life, and Fresh Pressed Olive Oil
00:16:43 In Defense of Expertise
00:19:04 Our Elites Don’t Deserve This Much Hatred
00:33:55 The ‘Elite’ Economists and Trump’s Tariffs
00:53:31 The Real Elites Demonstrated Greater Qualifications in Their Conclusions?
01:02:11 The Elite Method vs. The Wild West of Podcasts
01:12:05 Bret’s Model for How This Came About
01:31:31 The Meritocracy of Ideas
01:37:49 Dimming the Sun and Informed Consent
01:51:49 Next Week on The Evolutionary Lens: ‘Excipient’
01:54:47 Closing

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

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Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

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Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
NEW on Bret Weinstein’s DarkHorse Podcast Inside Rail, "The Drone Hypothesis" featuring John Cullen.
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Add Episode 344 of The Evolutionary Lens with Dr. Bret Weinstein and Dr. Heather Heying, “Lions, New Tigers, and Bears, oh my” to your podcast playlist:

Bret and Heather discuss new cats, fat bears, and overwhelmed frogs. The tilcayo, a newly named species of cat from Bolivia, is part of a group of New World “tiger cats” that live on the outskirts of the Amazon basin. We discuss Carnivoran relationships, cats more specifically, and what is known about the history and ecology of the tilcayo in particular.

Then: it’s fat bear week at Katmai National Park in Alaska, where grizzlies are fattening themselves on salmon for the Winter ahead; we discuss hibernation, reproductive diapause, and general chonkiness in bears.

Finally: female Cope’s gray treefrogs have a harder time choosing good mates when there’s a lot of noise, and when there are too many suitors—kind of like how women often make bad choices when confronted with chaos and wingmen.

Locals: https://darkhorse.locals.com/post/8219193/the-344th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying

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