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MAGA, MAHA, and the Unity Movement: The 267th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss wheat and gluten; MAGA, Trump, Elon, and Massie; and elephants. First: the end to the first round of Bret’s European wheat experiment: what does it mean that he can eat European wheat, but not American wheat? Then: does Trump misunderstand the coalition that brought him to the presidency a second time? Will going after Thomas Massie be a strong move, or a bad move? Does Elon have too much power, and is he misusing it? How does masculinity manifest in this administration? Finally: elephants and their love of showers.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Bret stands with Thomas Massie: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1899320001955541268

County Highway on this moment in time: https://countyhighway.com/archive/volume-2/issue-5/the-front-porch

The three tribes of MAGA men: https://unherd.com/2025/03/the-three-tribes-of-maga-men/

Urban et al 2025. Water-hose tool use and showering behavior by Asian elephants. Current Biology 34(23): 5602 - 5606.e1: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)01371-X

Turtle pronouns from a mental health advisor in Oregon: https://x.com/DaniFlyingFree/status/1899464252764610889


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:45 Welcome
00:10:48 Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Pique, and Sundays
00:21:08 The Great European Wheat Experiment
01:07:03 Setting up the Trump, Massie & Musk Discussion
01:13:54 Trump Attacks Rep. Thomas Massie
01:29:34 Trump & Elon Bromance
01:32:56 Failure to Understand the Unity Coalition
01:38:54 Will RFK Jr. Take the Lead on COVID?
01:42:44 Understanding the Unity Coalition: Trump’s Peace in Ukraine
01:43:31 MAGA Men Stereotypes Article
01:47:05 County Highway Tech Oligarchy
01:54:31 Not a Vindication of all things Conservative
01:55:31 Elephant Water Hose Tool Use
02:02:34 Trans Turtle Person
02:17:11 One Cool Fact About Turtles
02:18:57 Closing

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

00:02:06
Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

00:00:58
Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
This is your last day to purchase your ticket to Brownstone Institute's Polyface Retreat "Real Food, Real Health."

Bret and Heather will be speaking at Polyface Farm in Swoope, VA August 28-29th (along with many other incredible speakers). Find out more and grab your tickets before registration closes.

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Add Episode 338 of The Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, “We’re Beyond Flocked” to your podcast playlist:

Bret and Heather discuss the WNBA, and the surveillance state. At the WNBA, only women can play, but they don’t define what a woman is; as such, two former NBA players have declared their eligibility for next year’s WNBA draft. In humans, as in all mammals, sex is binary and immutable. This is simple and fundamental, and denying it is delusional.

Then: Toka is an Israeli company that advertises “frictionless surveillance.” Toka’s technology can locate cameras not their own, remotely access them, and change footage, both previous and live; and they can disappear evidence that any changes have been made. What could go right?

Locals: https://darkhorse.locals.com/post/8131638/the-338th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkBjYK-HYg?feature=share

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Great documentary on Therapy Culture and self-inflicted mental health conditions, their rise over time, etc. Specifically they mention the transition from psychiatry to psychology to "scientific" grift like we talk about every week here. I know we had a whole convo on that in here a few months ago, or it was a topic of a DH ep.

It's only free for 7 days on X, get it while you can!

https://x.com/PassagePress/status/2086950724211261525?_kx=0Iu_Q4eynqp-9cekE3K3Pg4njBamcr2YCAQ0KMGpEd0.UbEZJk

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