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MAGA, MAHA, and the Unity Movement: The 267th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

In this week’s episode, we discuss wheat and gluten; MAGA, Trump, Elon, and Massie; and elephants. First: the end to the first round of Bret’s European wheat experiment: what does it mean that he can eat European wheat, but not American wheat? Then: does Trump misunderstand the coalition that brought him to the presidency a second time? Will going after Thomas Massie be a strong move, or a bad move? Does Elon have too much power, and is he misusing it? How does masculinity manifest in this administration? Finally: elephants and their love of showers.


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Mentioned in this episode:

Bret stands with Thomas Massie: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1899320001955541268

County Highway on this moment in time: https://countyhighway.com/archive/volume-2/issue-5/the-front-porch

The three tribes of MAGA men: https://unherd.com/2025/03/the-three-tribes-of-maga-men/

Urban et al 2025. Water-hose tool use and showering behavior by Asian elephants. Current Biology 34(23): 5602 - 5606.e1: https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)01371-X

Turtle pronouns from a mental health advisor in Oregon: https://x.com/DaniFlyingFree/status/1899464252764610889


Timestamps:
00:00:00 Holding Screen
00:06:45 Welcome
00:10:48 Sponsors: CrowdHealth, Pique, and Sundays
00:21:08 The Great European Wheat Experiment
01:07:03 Setting up the Trump, Massie & Musk Discussion
01:13:54 Trump Attacks Rep. Thomas Massie
01:29:34 Trump & Elon Bromance
01:32:56 Failure to Understand the Unity Coalition
01:38:54 Will RFK Jr. Take the Lead on COVID?
01:42:44 Understanding the Unity Coalition: Trump’s Peace in Ukraine
01:43:31 MAGA Men Stereotypes Article
01:47:05 County Highway Tech Oligarchy
01:54:31 Not a Vindication of all things Conservative
01:55:31 Elephant Water Hose Tool Use
02:02:34 Trans Turtle Person
02:17:11 One Cool Fact About Turtles
02:18:57 Closing

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Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying discuss censorship and the war in Iran:

We have "cartesian blinders being put on us so that we are trying to make sense out of scraps of information and hints." - @bretweinstein

00:02:06
Who exactly belongs in the Stone Ages?

WEINSTEIN: I mean, even if you have your villains who are engaged in the behavior that motivated this war in Iran, even if that's the story, presumably most of the people in the path of these ferocious bombings that he is describing are not deserving of going back to the Stone Age.

In fact, I distinctly remember him telling us that part of what we were up to was liberating the people of Iran from their tyrannical regime.

So if it's the tyrannical regime that justifies the ferocious bombing, then it's a tragedy that other people are going to be sent back to the Stone Ages with them. Right?

HEYING: It's it's not a narrative. It's an incoherent set of talking points.

WEINSTEIN: Yeah, it's a kind of cheerleading that is completely inappropriate from the perspective of the president.

Bret Weinstein discusses the Trump administrations "back to the stone age" recent remarks in the latest episode of The Evolutionary Lens, Episode 320 "Are we back in the stone age?" on DarkHorse.

00:00:58
Washington's 9.9% "Millionaires Tax" Isn't That Simple

Bret Weinstein explains, "If you stop businesses from starting here, and if you drive people so that they move elsewhere—even though it's difficult to do—then the point is the tax base dries up, which then forces you to become even more predatory for the people who stayed.

And that's really the thing, right? They're setting themselves up so that they have to go after more and more people, because the people who are starting new businesses are not going to do it here."

00:14:03
Add Episode 351 of The Evolutionary Lens with Dr. Bret Weinstein and Dr. Heather Heying, “Consent in the Case of Russell Brand” to your podcast playlist:

Bret and Heather discuss Russell Brand: his history, his character, his recent convictions and sentencing. What does consent mean in the modern era—is it a concept that can possibly do what it needs to do? Other concepts under discussion are rape, statute of limitations, charisma, and redemption.

Then: how a story of a failed co-op reveals deep divides.

Locals: https://darkhorse.locals.com/post/8316201/consent-and-the-case-of-russell-brand-the-351st-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-h

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTI7paEbpI0

Rumble: https://rumble.com/v7i5goo-consent-and-the-case-of-russell-brand-the-351st-evolutionary-lens-wbret-wei.html

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/08pSgWUPFXxyNDZXQ6IuKe?si=9_-lbgyqTxyfo6cWiF0oTg

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/consent-in-the-case-of-russell-brand-the/id1471581521?i=1000801080797

X: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/2VNRYNjKmopPXM

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The Fantastical Collapse of the Candace Collision

How overnight, the entire ecosystem that is Candace Owens crashed

I’ll admit it. I was one of those dirty Candace Owens fans. Kinda still am, maybe? Still making sense of what is happening.

What hooked me was her series on French President Macron’s wife, and specifically her penis, built on the reporting of Xavier Poussard. An American podcaster taking on the president of France over his wife’s anatomy. I thought it was the most American gangster thing I’d ever seen. I was in.

For a while, watching Candace felt like watching Jordan Peterson in the early days, or Joe Rogan before he got involved with the gambling industry, or DarkHorse, of course, of course. You know, a dissident speaking truth.

Then, almost overnight, it all fell apart.

The fight that made no sense

Here’s the setup. Candace was heading into maternity leave pregnant with her fifth child, a boy she announced back in June. Meanwhile, a fight was brewing that seemingly had nothing to do with her....

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Rantings from a token Anti-vax guy

What ever happened to being pro-choice when it comes to chemicals in your blood?

A funny thing happened to me the other day. I was talking to a former coworker about why I think mass immigration into the country is harmful in many ways. We had a friendly exchange, and I thought the conversation was going well. Eventually, she said she enjoys talking about politics, which shocked me. To me, how is that political? It's not like anyone voted on it, and nobody knew about it until far too late. But somehow, even expressing concern about it is a Republican thing to do?

I find the same line of logic when it comes to being injected with chemicals. Most people I know frame it as a political position, not as a question of personal health and safety in the least (never mind concepts like informed consent and bodily autonomy, which many of them are passionate about when it comes to reproductive rights).

I really take offense at being called an anti-vaxxer, even though that's ...

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